Macclesfield Quiz League |
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2023–4 Season |
Week 18 |
A League – Full Results |
B League – Full Results |
A League – Summary |
B League – Summary |
Cars & Vans 4U Trophy |
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A League Champions | Poachers |
A League Runners–Up | Nags Head 'B' |
B League Champions | Waters Green Nags |
B League Runners–Up | Park Taverners |
Cup Winners | TBA |
Cup Runners–Up | TBA |
The Cup Final will be between the Poachers and the Queens of the Castle (again), and will be played on Tuesday 30 April.
Plate Winners | TBA |
Plate Runners–Up | TBA |
The Plate Final will be between the Dolphin Hammers and the Nags Head (date to be advised).
A League Individual Champion | Alan Hodgson |
A League Individual Runner–Up | Alice Walker |
A League Individual Third Place | Ashton Davies |
B League Individual Champion (tied) | Paul Prior Ian Musgrave |
B League Individual Runner–Up | John Poyser |
B League Individual Third Place | Graham Wallace |
Cars & Vans 4U Question Setters Trophy: Winners | Park Taverners (Week 6, Specialist) |
Cars & Vans 4U Question Setters Trophy: Runners–Up | Nags Head 'B' (Week 1, General Knowledge) |
Special mention to the Chester Road Tavern and the Nags Head, each of whom had both sets in the Top Ten.
Of the seven matches this week, four were decided by five points or fewer. Two of the teams that benefitted in these close finishes were the Poachers and the Waters Green Nags – both of whom were already assured of their respective League titles. Even so, we are pleased to offer formal congratulations to both teams.
For the Poachers this is a second consecutive A League title, and they are not going to be any easier to beat next season. The WG Nags finished as runners–up in the B League last season, and would have played in the A League this time if it hadn't been for changes elsewhere (namely the resignation of the Harrington Diamonds).
At the bottom of the A League, an under–strength Nags Head team couldn't get the win they needed at the Castle, so (subject to team registrations) they will be playing in the B League next season. The Park Taverners will be going the other way; despite being on the wrong end of another close finish (against the Bate Hallers), they finished as runners–up in the B League thanks to having accumulated a few more match points than the Sutton Club.
The Park Tavern will thus be staging A League matches next season for the first time ever. It will be losing a Derby, and so will the Nags Head, but the Waters Green Tavern will be hosting one for the first time since 2019–20; and it will be in the A League for the first time since 2015–16. On both of those previous occasions it was the Rams versus the Lemmings, but the new Waters Green Derby will be the Weavers against the Nags.
And finally ... the fourth team to enjoy (if that's the right word) a narrow victory this week was the Chester Road Tavern, who finished fifth in the B League – their highest ever final position.
Alice Walker improved her eleven–game total by twelve points, which was enough to put her level with Alan Hodgson's score of last week, but Alan improved his total by six, and so finishes as A League individual champion for the second consecutive season and the fourteenth time overall. Ashton Davies, who last week still had an outside chance of taking the title, finished in third place.
In the B League, Paul Prior and Ian Musgrave couldn't be separated last week, and neither of them could improve on their eleven–game totals this week, so they finished as joint champions. This is the third title in a row for Paul, but it's Ian's first appearance in the top three.
John Poyser was also unable to increase his total, but his score remained the second highest in the B League. Graham Wallace did improve his previous total, but not sufficiently to displace John.
The highest score this week was 48, by Alice Walker and Mark Watson. Haydn Thompson, Tim Massey and Dave Cooper all scored 42. The highest scorer in the B League was Anne Jeater with 33.
Dave Cooper's 42 was one of only four personal bests this week. Two of the personal bests were recorded in Seat 4, and two in Seat 7. Ten people failed to improve on their lowest scores of the season.
Apologies to Daves Cooper and Barber for the earlier confusion!
Most teams seem to have found the Waters Green Weavers' questions quite tough, especially those going second in the Specialists. Four of the seven matches were won by the teams that started first; two of the three that won by going second were the two League leaders, and they won by just three and five points respectively!
Comments on the Forum are generally quite favourable, although one or two ppeople have said that they found the questions rather tough. The questions scored well for Entertainment in the A League, although less well in the B League.
Note: in this section, the home teams are on the left and the away teams are on the right.
Queens of the Castle | 190 | 115 | Nags Head |
Alice Walker | 48 | 24 24 24 |
Phil Davies Geoff Shaw Tony Browne |
Nags Head 'B' | 167 | 144 | Dolphin |
Mark Watson | 48 | 45 | Alan Hodgson |
Dolphin Hammers | 152 | 155 | Poachers |
Dave Cooper (pb) | 42 | 42 36 27 15 |
Ashton Davies Greg Spiller Ed Baron Kevin Fieldstead (pb) |
Played | Won | Drawn | Lost | Total | Points | |
Poachers | 14 | 13 | 0 | 1 | 2448 | 26 |
Nags Head 'B' | 14 | 11 | 0 | 3 | 2317 | 22 |
Queens of the Castle | 14 | 9 | 0 | 5 | 2394 | 18 |
Dolphin | 14 | 7 | 0 | 7 | 2205 | 14 |
Dolphin Hammers | 14 | 7 | 0 | 7 | 2127 | 14 |
Waters Green Weavers | 14 | 3 | 1 | 10 | 2107 | 7 |
Nags Head | 14 | 3 | 0 | 11 | 1975 | 6 |
Harrington Academicals | 14 | 2 | 1 | 11 | 2083 | 5 |
Team | Played | Total | Highest | Lowest | Week 18 | |
Alan Hodgson | Dolphin | 14 | 525 | 54 | 42 | 45 |
Alice Walker | Queens of the Castle | 14 | 519 | 60 | 39 | 48 |
Ashton Davies | Poachers | 11 | 513 | 60 | 39 | 42 |
Mark Watson | Nags Head 'B' | 12 | 510 | 54 | 39 | 48 |
Ian Grieve | Waters Green Weavers | 14 | 498 | 54 | 36 | |
Haydn Thompson | Queens of the Castle | 14 | 495 | 57 | 36 | 42 |
Greg Spiller | Poachers | 13 | 492 | 51 | 36 | 36 |
Peter McBride | Dolphin | 14 | 444 | 51 | 36 | 30 |
Dave Barber | Dolphin Hammers | 13 | 444 | 48 | 36 | 36 |
Dave Partington | Harrington Academicals | 14 | 429 | 48 | 33 | |
Ed Baron | Poachers | 14 | 390 | 48 | 27 | 27 |
Note: in this section, the home teams are on the left and the away teams are on the right.
Chester Road Tavern | 107 | 104 | Pack Horse Bowling Club |
Mitch Moores Bill Moores |
24 24 |
24 | Reg Bloor |
Bate Hallers | 118 | 115 | Park Taverners |
Anne Jeater | 33 | 33 27 |
Graham Wallace Nick Crowdy (pb) |
Park Timers | 103 | 131 | Sutton Club |
John Poyser | 27 | 27 27 |
Simon Rumsey Wendy Brown |
Sutton Mutton | 113 | 118 | Waters Green Nags |
Wynne Keith–Davies Mick Graves Gill Dyson (pb) |
21 21 15 |
30 | Ian Musgrave |
Played | Won | Drawn | Lost | Total | Points | |
Waters Green Nags | 14 | 13 | 0 | 1 | 2101 | 26 |
Park Taverners | 14 | 9 | 0 | 5 | 1921 | 18 |
Sutton Club | 14 | 9 | 0 | 5 | 1909 | 18 |
Bate Hallers | 14 | 8 | 1 | 5 | 1821 | 17 |
Chester Road Tavern | 14 | 6 | 0 | 8 | 1733 | 12 |
Sutton Mutton | 14 | 5 | 0 | 9 | 1731 | 10 |
Park Timers | 14 | 4 | 0 | 10 | 1744 | 8 |
Pack Horse Bowling Club | 14 | 1 | 1 | 12 | 1558 | 3 |
Team | Played | Total | Highest | Lowest | Week 18 | |
Paul Prior | Waters Green Nags | 14 | 441 | 57 | 27 | 27 |
Ian Musgrave | Waters Green Nags | 13 | 441 | 48 | 30 | 30 |
John Poyser | Park Timers | 14 | 372 | 42 | 27 | 27 |
Graham Wallace | Park Taverners | 13 | 369 | 39 | 27 | 33 |
Wynne Keith–Davies | Sutton Mutton | 14 | 357 | 48 | 21 | 21 |
Anne Jeater | Bate Hallers | 14 | 345 | 39 | 21 | 33 |
Heather Wallace | Park Taverners | 13 | 333 | 52 | 12 | 9 |
Wendy Brown | Sutton Club | 12 | 333 | 42 | 18 | 27 |
Shauna Barstow | Park Taverners | 11 | 327 | 42 | 12 | |
Simon Rumsey | Sutton Club | 13 | 312 | 39 | 18 | 27 |
Andrew Fenton | Park Timers | 14 | 303 | 39 | 21 | 18 |
Mike Proctor | Sutton Mutton | 12 | 291 | 39 | 12 | 12 |
Note: in this section, the teams that went "first first" (first in the Specialist questions) are on the left in the tables. In the headings, the home teams are given first.
Queens of the Castle | Spec | GK | Total | Nags Head | Spec | GK | Total |
Alice Walker | 21 | 27 | 48 | Phil Davies | 12 | 12 | 24 |
Haydn Thompson | 18 | 24 | 42 | Geoff Shaw | 9 | 15 | 24 |
Caroline Massey | 15 | 9 | 24 | Tony Browne | 9 | 15 | 24 |
Tim Massey | 18 | 24 | 42 | Claire Tinsley | 6 | 6 | 12 |
Conferred | 3 | 11 | 14 | Conferred | 8 | 17 | 25 |
Passed over | 6 | 14 | 20 | Passed over | 2 | 4 | 6 |
Totals | 81 | 109 | 190 | Totals | 46 | 69 | 115 |
Nags Head 'B' | Spec | GK | Total | Dolphin | Spec | GK | Total |
Mark Shaw | 3 | 15 | 18 | Peter McBride | 12 | 18 | 30 |
Mark Watson | 18 | 30 | 48 | Alan Hodgson | 18 | 27 | 45 |
Laurence Plant | 9 | 15 | 24 | Rossi Albanese | 9 | 12 | 21 |
Steve Carter | 15 | 18 | 33 | John Brown | 6 | 12 | 18 |
Conferred | 11 | 19 | 30 | Conferred | 7 | 17 | 24 |
Passed over | 8 | 6 | 14 | Passed over | 5 | 1 | 6 |
Totals | 64 | 103 | 167 | Totals | 57 | 87 | 144 |
Dolphin Hammers | Spec | GK | Total | Poachers | Spec | GK | Total |
Liz Horrocks | 12 | 12 | 24 | Ed Baron | 12 | 15 | 27 |
Pete Sayers | 3 | 18 | 21 | Kevin Fieldstead (pb) | 9 | 6 | 15 |
Dave Barber | 15 | 21 | 36 | Ashton Davies | 9 | 33 | 42 |
Dave Cooper (pb) | 21 | 21 | 42 | Greg Spiller | 6 | 30 | 36 |
Conferred | 7 | 12 | 19 | Conferred | 7 | 15 | 22 |
Passed over | 7 | 3 | 10 | Passed over | 6 | 7 | 13 |
Totals | 65 | 87 | 152 | Totals | 49 | 106 | 155 |
Note: in this section, the teams that went "first first" (first in the Specialist questions) are on the left in the tables. In the headings, the home teams are given first.
Pack Horse Bowling Club | Spec | GK | Total | Chester Road Tavern | Spec | GK | Total |
Reg Bloor | 3 | 21 | 24 | Mitch Moores | 6 | 18 | 24 |
Martin Williams | 6 | 12 | 18 | Bill Moores | 9 | 15 | 24 |
Tim Bloor | 6 | 9 | 15 | Jim Moores | 9 | 9 | 18 |
Andrew Vickerstaff | 6 | 12 | 18 | Ian Kenny | 0 | 3 | 3 |
Conferred | 11 | 9 | 20 | Conferred | 7 | 15 | 22 |
Passed over | 7 | 2 | 9 | Passed over | 7 | 9 | 16 |
Totals | 39 | 65 | 104 | Totals | 38 | 69 | 107 |
Bate Hallers | Spec | GK | Total | Park Taverners | Spec | GK | Total |
(No player) | Heather Wallace | 0 | 9 | 9 | |||
Malcolm Asquith | 9 | 12 | 21 | Nick Crowdy (pb) | 9 | 18 | 27 |
Anne Jeater | 12 | 21 | 33 | Pete Dykstra | 12 | 3 | 15 |
Pat Jeater | 15 | 9 | 24 | Graham Wallace | 12 | 21 | 33 |
Conferred | 7 | 15 | 22 | Conferred | 5 | 11 | 16 |
Passed over | 5 | 13 | 18 | Passed over | 5 | 10 | 15 |
Totals | 48 | 70 | 118 | Totals | 43 | 72 | 115 |
Sutton Club | Spec | GK | Total | Park Timers | Spec | GK | Total |
Chris Butler | 9 | 15 | 24 | Andrew Fenton | 3 | 15 | 18 |
John Green | 9 | 9 | 18 | John Poyser | 15 | 12 | 27 |
Simon Rumsey | 9 | 18 | 27 | Adrian Webster | 6 | 0 | 6 |
Wendy Brown | 9 | 18 | 27 | Tim Brewin | 12 | 6 | 18 |
Conferred | 8 | 11 | 19 | Conferred | 4 | 17 | 21 |
Passed over | 3 | 13 | 16 | Passed over | 3 | 10 | 13 |
Totals | 47 | 84 | 131 | Totals | 43 | 60 | 103 |
Sutton Mutton | Spec | GK | Total | Waters Green Nags | Spec | GK | Total |
Wynne Keith–Davies | 6 | 15 | 21 | Ian Musgrave | 18 | 12 | 30 |
Mike Proctor | 3 | 9 | 12 | Sunil Peck | 3 | 12 | 15 |
Mick Graves | 9 | 12 | 21 | Vic Uske | 0 | 12 | 12 |
Gill Dyson (p) | 6 | 9 | 15 | Paul Prior | 15 | 12 | 27 |
Conferred | 9 | 14 | 23 | Conferred | 9 | 11 | 20 |
Passed over | 4 | 17 | 21 | Passed over | 6 | 8 | 14 |
Totals | 37 | 76 | 113 | Totals | 51 | 67 | 118 |
Wk | Setters | Difficulty | Balance | Ent'ment | Total | Last Yr | ||
1 | 6 | Spec | Park Taverners | 10.00 | 9.35 | 6.83 | 26.18 | 26.00 |
2 | 1 | GK | Nags Head 'B' | 10.00 | 8.47 | 7.16 | 25.63 | 21.64 |
3 | 12 | GK | Chester Road Tavern | 7.32 | 9.93 | 6.83 | 24.08 | 12.39 |
4 | 5 | GK | Harrington Academicals | 8.21 | 9.65 | 5.83 | 23.69 | 12.37 |
5 | 9 | Spec | Waters Green Weavers | 6.63 | 9.72 | 6.93 | 23.28 | 24.51 |
6 | 12 | Spec | Chester Road Tavern | 7.42 | 7.89 | 6.75 | 22.07 | 19.64 |
7 | 13 | Spec | Park Timers | 7.01 | 8.48 | 6.33 | 21.83 | 25.21 |
8 | 17 | Spec | Waters Green Nags | 7.11 | 7.25 | 6.98 | 21.34 | 10.58 |
9 | 7 | Spec | Nags Head | 5.00 | 8.65 | 6.75 | 20.90 | 10.58 |
10 | 7 | GK | Nags Head | 5.51 | 8.24 | 6.25 | 20.50 | 15.55 |
11 | 8 | Spec | Waters Green Nags | 4.66 | 8.97 | 6.16 | 19.79 | 15.55 |
12 | 2 | Spec | Sutton Club | 4.72 | 8.11 | 6.66 | 19.49 | 21.98 |
13 | 4 | Spec | Dolphin Hammers | 3.92 | 9.35 | 6.17 | 19.44 | 11.27 |
14 | 6 | GK | Park Taverners | 4.54 | 8.82 | 5.67 | 19.03 | 19.10 |
15 | 9 | GK | Waters Green Weavers | 5.98 | 5.86 | 6.46 | 18.30 | 18.08 |
16 | 11 | GK | Poachers | 5.25 | 6.62 | 6.41 | 18.28 | 18.62 |
17 | 17 | GK | Waters Green Nags | 3.85 | 8.08 | 5.84 | 17.77 | 8.08 |
18 | 1 | Spec | Nags Head 'B' | 9.41 | 0.37 | 7.25 | 17.02 | 19.80 |
19 | 14 | GK | Sutton Mutton | 4.38 | 8.80 | 3.75 | 16.92 | 13.50 |
20 | 2 | GK | Sutton Club | 4.21 | 6.09 | 6.58 | 16.89 | 20.28 |
21 | 11 | Spec | Poachers | 5.64 | 3.83 | 6.41 | 15.87 | 21.07 |
22 | 3 | Spec | Queens of the Castle | 2.55 | 7.69 | 5.50 | 15.74 | 16.72 |
23 | 5 | Spec | Harrington Academicals | 4.94 | 4.28 | 5.67 | 14.89 | 23.24 |
24 | 3 | GK | Queens of the Castle | 3.54 | 5.33 | 5.75 | 14.62 | 13.47 |
25 | 15 | Spec | Dolphin | 4.46 | 4.45 | 5.42 | 14.34 | 19.51 |
26 | 13 | GK | Park Timers | 6.35 | 1.54 | 6.16 | 14.05 | 25.93 |
27 | 10 | GK | Bate Hallers | 1.62 | 8.12 | 3.50 | 13.24 | 8.82 |
28 | 18 | Spec | Waters Green Weavers | 1.72 | 6.06 | 4.58 | 12.36 | 18.08 |
29 | 15 | GK | Dolphin | 3.15 | 3.85 | 5.33 | 12.32 | 18.76 |
30 | 14 | Spec | Sutton Mutton | 7.10 | 0.56 | 3.67 | 11.34 | 21.09 |
31 | 18 | GK | Waters Green Weavers | 3.63 | 1.89 | 5.81 | 11.33 | 24.51 |
32 | 4 | GK | Dolphin Hammers | 3.36 | 2.35 | 5.16 | 10.87 | 20.60 |
33 | 16 | GK | Pack Horse Bowling Club | 5.04 | 0.00 | 5.41 | 10.45 | 18.91 |
34 | 8 | GK | Waters Green Nags | 0.00 | 7.38 | 2.93 | 10.31 | 8.08 |
35 | 10 | Spec | Bate Hallers | 0.00 | 5.14 | 3.75 | 8.89 | 8.11 |
36 | 16 | Spec | Pack Horse Bowling Club | 1.70 | 0.00 | 4.25 | 5.95 | 22.08 |
The Waters Green Weavers' second set of questions this season seem to have been OK for the teams that went "first first", but those that started second found them almost as tough as any we've had this season. The teams that went first in the Specialist questions scored on average 98% of their average scores, compared with 85% for the teams that started second.
The pattern was similar in both sets, but the Specialist questions were a lot harder than the General Knowledge (according to the spreadsheet). In the Specialist set, the teams that went first scored 92% and those that went second managed only 81%; in the General Knowledge the figures were 102% (for those that went first in the Specialists) and 87%.
The Entertainment marks were on the low side – especially for the Specialists. They were better in the A League than in the B League.
On the Forum, one or two people have commented that they found the questions rather tough, but no specific issues are mentioned. In fact we might say that comments about the questions are on the whole quite favourable.
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