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2017–18 Season
Week 3 - 31 October 2017

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A League
B League
C League
Week 3
Cars & Vans 4U Trophy
Cup: Round 1 Results
Cup: Round 2 Draw

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News and Views: 2017–18 Season – Week 3 – 31 October 2017

A League

Results

Dolphin 169 145 Wharfies
Stuart Rowbotham 39 42 Brian Bogie
Church House Bollington 167 165 Weaver
Ashton Davies (pb) 51 45 Graham Bailey (pb)
Ox–fford 155 137 Dolphin Dragons
Mark Watson 45 39 Dave Cooper (pb)

Tables

Played Won Drawn Lost Total Points
Ox–fford 'C' 2 2 0 0 351 4
Ox–fford 2 2 0 0 320 4
Church House Bollington 3 2 0 2 471 2
Weaver 3 1 0 2 468 2
Wharfies 3 1 0 2 445 2
Dolphin Dragons 2 1 0 1 323 2
Dolphin 1 1 0 0 169 2
British Flag 2 0 0 2 290 0

Individual Top Ten

  Team Played Total Highest Lowest Week 3
1 Ashton Davies Church House Bollington 3 123 51 30 51
2 Graham Bailey Weaver 3 120 45 33 45
3 Brian Bogie Wharfies 3 117 45 30 42
4 Ed Baron Church House Bollington 3 102 42 27 33
5 Alice Walker Ox–fford 'C' 2 96 48 48  
6= Bob Gratton Church House Bollington 3 93 33 30 33
6= Lesley Davies Weaver 3 93 33 30 30
8= Haydn Thompson Ox–fford 'C' 2 90 48 42  
8= Mark Watson Ox–fford 2 90 45 45 45
10 Art Higham Wharfies 2 87 48 39  

B League

Results

Royal Oak 165 138 Harrington Academicals
Rosalie James 45 42 Rob Parkin
Robin Hood 126 133 Waters Green Lemmings
Jim Kennelly (pb) 42 33 Wendy Brown
Waters Green Rams 178 119 Nags Head
Bob Thompson 51 33 Andrew Wright

Tables

Played Won Drawn Lost Total Points
Nags Head 3 2 0 1 446 4
Waters Green Rams 2 2 0 0 345 4
Waters Green Lemmings 2 2 0 0 279 4
Robin Hood 3 1 0 2 422 2
Harrington Academicals 3 1 0 2 414 2
Royal Oak 2 1 0 1 310 2
Harrington 'B' 2 0 0 2 244 0
Plough Horntails 1 0 0 1 126 0

Individual Top Ten

  Team Played Total Highest Lowest Week 3
1= Alasdair Reid Nags Head 3 114 54 24 24
1= Dave Partington Harrington Academicals 3 114 48 30 30
3 Jim Kennelly Robin Hood 3 105 42 27 42
4 Andrew Wright Nags Head 3 96 36 27 33
5 Rob Parkin Harrington Academicals 2 78 42 36 42
6 Rosalie James Royal Oak 2 75 45 30 45
7= Alan James Royal Oak 2 66 36 30 36
7= John Green Harrington 'B' 2 66 36 30  
8= Tim Grimes Robin Hood 2 63 36 27 36
8= Andy Johnson Nags Head 2 63 33 30 30
8= Paul Prior Nags Head 3 63 24 18 18

C League

Results

Sutton Mutton 117 108 Park Taverners
Wynne Keith-Davies 30 27
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Graham Wallace
Shauna Barstow
Pack Horse Bowling Club 108 126 Prince of Wales
Tim Bloor
Andrew Vickerstaff
Mike Vickerstaff
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30 Andy Ridgway
Cock Inn 121 121 Sutton Club
Peter Wilcox 33 30 Chris Butler

Tables

Played Won Drawn Lost Total Points
Sutton Club 3 2 1 0 384 5
Prince of Wales 3 2 0 1 367 4
Sutton Mutton 2 2 0 0 266 4
Pack Horse Bowling Club 3 1 0 2 369 2
Park Timers 1 1 0 0 146 2
Cock Inn 2 0 1 1 221 1
Chester Road Tavern 2 0 0 2 241 0
Park Taverners 2 0 0 2 216 0

Individual Top Ten

  Team Played Total Highest Lowest Week 3
1 Andy Ridgway Prince of Wales 3 90 39 21 30
2 Chris Butler Sutton Club 3 81 30 21 30
3= Wynne Keith-Davies Sutton Mutton 2 69 39 30 30
3= Tim Bloor Pack Horse Bowling Club 3 69 27 21 21
5 Andrew Vickerstaff Pack Horse Bowling Club 3 63 24 18 21
6= Peter Wilcox Cock Inn 2 54 33 21 33
6= Jackie Hulme Cock Inn 2 54 30 24 30
6= Tim Hayes Prince of Wales 3 54 24 15 15
6= Trisha Ashton Prince of Wales 3 54 21 15 21
9= Paul Heaven Sutton Club 2 48 33 15  
9= Mike Proctor Sutton Mutton 2 48 30 18 18
9= Mitch Moores Chester Road Tavern 2 48 27 21  
9= Emma Griggs Sutton Club 3 48 21 12 12

Week 3

We apologise for the delay in posting these results. Mark Watson is still without an internet connection at home following a house move. This issue will hopefully be resolved in time for the next set of results to be posted promptly.

Of the nine games this week, five were won by teams going "first first" and three by the teams going the other way. We also had our first draw of the season!

The teams that won by going "first first" were the Dolphin, Church House Bollington, Waters Green Lemmings, Waters Green Rams and Park Taverners.

The draw was in the C League between the Cock Inn and Sutton Club, who also scored exactly the same scores in each of the Specialist and GK Rounds!

There were some other very close games, notably the one between the Church House Bollington and the Weaver, which the CHB won by two points. This was achieved by Ashton Davies getting a 3 for the very last question of the night – GK 96, the one about the "Merry Monarch".

Ashton had a fantastic score of 51 on the night, as did Bob Thompson for the Waters Green Rams.

Cars & Vans 4U Question Setters' Trophy

Wk Team Difficulty Balance Ent'mnt Total Last Year
1 1 Spec Ox–fford 10.00 6.69 7.22 23.91 24.69
2 3 Spec British Flag 8.48 8.07 7.11 23.66 22.17
3 2 GK Royal Oak 5.35 8.23 5.72 19.30 8.20
4 1 GK Ox–fford 8.30 4.38 6.50 19.18 17.22
5 3 GK British Flag 3.66 8.66 5.67 18.00
6 2 Spec Sutton Mutton 5.20 8.81 3.44 17.45 (11.50)

The British Flag's questions scored well all round. The Specialist set were a lot easier than average and very well balanced (with a slight bias towards the team that went second); the General Knowledge were slightly harder than average but also well balanced. The bias in the General Knowledge was in favour of the team that went second (first in the Specialists) and so the overall balance was almost perfect.

The relative difficulty of the General Knowledge questions was reflected in their Entertainment score, which was still very respectable. The Entertainment score for the Specialist questions would have been the highest in the League last season.

All of this season's questions so far have scored well; as mentioned last week, the Sutton Mutton's total score of 17.45 would have won them a comfortable mid–table slot last season.

To see the complete spreadsheet for this season so far, please click here.

Cup: Round 1 Results

The first round of this season's Cup competition was played on Tuesday 24 Octomber (the week before the third round of League games). The results were as follows:

Sutton Mutton 77 89 Royal Oak
Prince of Wales 78 80 Weaver
Harrington 'B' 73 74 Park Taverners
Robin Hood 78 90 Dolphin Dragons
Wharfies 91 83 Plough Horntails
Dolphin 98 71 Pack Horse Bowling Club
Waters Green Rams 70 73 Cock Inn
Church House Bollington 86 70 Sutton Club

The eight losing teams from the above games will go into the Plate, whilst the eight winning teams are joined by the eight teams who had "byes", or set and asked questions, in Round 1, to make up the last 16 for the Cup.

The eight teams in the Plate have all played and lost one game, and two of those teams have been drawn to set questions for the next round, along with a further four teams to act as Question Masters for all the games.

All eight teams in the Plate will go forward to the Quarter Finals, which will be played early next year.

After Round 2 of the Cup, we will be left with eight teams in the Cup and eight in the Plate.

Top scorers in Round 1 were the Dolphin with 98.

I suspect most teams will have found the second half of the questions (nos. 61 to 120) a lot harder than the first. As the person who had the greatest hand in setting those questions, I feel I should explain that it was largely deliberate; in our house, we feel that the questions in the Cup need to be harder than we're used to in the League as they are all conferred. Some games seem to hang on just a handful of questions, which can make it seem like a bit of a lottery.

In the game that I asked the questions in (Robin Hood v. Dolphin Dragons), the scores were tied on 51 each at the half-way stage; in the second half, the Dragons scored 39 while the Robin Hood managed only 27. In the first half only five questions went unanswered by either team, but in the second half there were 22.

Maybe we overdid it and the questions were a little too tough. What do you think? Let me know, and I'll publish your replies (or a representative summary) in a future News & Views.

Cup: Round 2 Draw

Waters Green Lemmings Ox–fford 'C'
Chester Road Tavern Cock Inn
British Flag Park Timers
Park Taverners Church House Bollington
Nags Head Dolphin
Ox–fford Harrington Academicals
Weaver Royal Oak
Dolphin Dragons Wharfies

These games will be played on 21 November 2017. The questions will be set by the Plough Horntails and the Harrington 'B', who will provide two question masters each.

The Prince of Wales, Waters Green Rams, Sutton Mutton and Sutton Club will provide one question master each.

Please decide beforehand who is going to turn out, so we donít have to call anyone on the night.

Questions for the Quarter Finals of the Cup and Plate will be set by two of the losing teams from the above games. A draw will be made after the above games have been played.

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